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Enviro-Etiquette
Posted by Su Avasthi on September 19, 2006 - 6:56pm.

Rarely am I asked to weigh in on ethical dilemmas. (I dunno why, maybe people aren't convinced that I have any ethics.)

However, one brave soul just sent me an ethical question. Fortunately, he also posed it to more reliable sources. So, given that his bases are covered, I'll take a stab:

Dear Su,

On a recent dinner outing, my friends and I spent an hour-long wait in front of the restaurant. Parked directly in front of the waiting area was an oversized SUV with the engine running. The car was left running for the majority of our wait (and presumably before we arrived) to keep a dog cool while its owners ate dinner.

I'm no advocate of torturing dogs, but if you're dining out it would seem smarter to leave your dog at home, be kind to Mother Earth and be considerate to other diners who are overheated by your vehicle.

One of my friends wrote the word "WASTEFUL" with his finger in the foggy driver-side window of the vehicle. When the car owners returned and realized what he had done, my friend was berated. "How dare you violate my private property" and "Mind your own business" were his more printable criticisms.

Were we wrong? No harm came to the vehicle and freedom of speech would seem to protect the criticism. In these days of eco-awareness, aren't we obligated to speak up for our planet? ---- Jimmy H.

Dear Jimmy:

Whoa, did real life just imitate the movies? After all, how often does mundane day-to-day life present us with such a clear-cut good guy vs. bad guy scenario?

In my opinion, you and your friend — being champions of Mother Earth and concerned about the welfare of a canine — are on the side of good. The SUV-driving, fume-producing, planet-destroying guy who gave your buddy a tongue lashing is, well, a jerk.

Now, let's suppose that the SUV driver happened to live miles away, had his dog in tow and, for some reason, absolutely needed to eat at that restaurant. Upon being called out, his only acceptable response was to acknowledge the mistake, apologize sheepishly, and skulk away into the night to wash his window and conscience. Instead, he turned belligerent in a weak attempt to save face. But who knows? Maybe he'll think twice before pulling that stunt next time. Maybe he'll keep the car on, the air-conditioner running, and the windows rolled down.

Bottom line: Keep defending the planet, man. It won't always be easy, but it's only way to become a superhero.

Have a enviro-etiquette question for Su? Mail her at su@lime.com.



<em>JimmyJames</em>'s picture
Thanks!
by JimmyJames on September 20, 2006 - 9:50am
Thanks, Su. I feel so validated!
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My Car
by Anonymous on September 22, 2006 - 8:31am

I drive a Ford Excursion with dual exhaust combined with "tractor trailer" exhaust pipes that come out of the roof.  I find that this maximizes total exhaust. 

Also, I replaced the pleather seats with real leather.  I find that this maximizes total leather, as I am a fan of leather products.

I find that my vehicle, which I have named "Fordzilla", runs best on leaded gasoline, so I decided to replace the engine with the engine from a 1937 Packard.  This seems to give me more bang for my buck when using leaded gas, thereby maximizing "old school" gas consumption.

I love my car, and you shouldnt have an opinion.  And if you ever see it running in the parking lot with oversized dog sitting shotgun and decide to write on it remember this; I made the stupid choice to leave it running and to buy it, and eventually, because of economic forces, it will be completely impractical rather than kind of impractical to drive it, thereby minimizing my bank account.

So when you see an SUV running in the parking lot do not write on it.  That isnt cool.

 

 

 


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Could go further
by Anonymous on September 22, 2006 - 11:18am

Why not write wasteful all over Mr. Gore.  He's blowing more hot air than any SUV ever could.  He might have invented the internet, but he has no clue about science.  He is not willing to address evidence contrary to his own.

Of Course, with all his air travel, the contrails left behind are cooling the earth, so maybe he's just a net zero sum.


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Wait a sec
by fez on September 20, 2006 - 10:08am

Although planet earth is the most precious resource and should be defended when appropriate, confronting someone about their lack of  eco-awareness can come across as being "preachy".

Be thankful his belligerence did not turn into something worse.

This isn't Kansas, Toto. 

 


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Just a question
by Anonymous on September 20, 2006 - 10:12am
If your friend wrote "wasteful" on the window and then stuck around to see the reaction, why didn't he just try a nicer way to approach the situation?  After all, since the friend stuck around anyaway (and got a tongue-lashing) why didn't he just stick around, and when the owner came out say something like, "Hi.  I've been watching your car because I was concerned that since it was running, it might be stolen, or, since the windows were fogged up, I didn't know if there weren't little kids in there who might need help." and then go into, in a polite way, how running the vehicle was environmentally unsound and also put carbon dioxide (or is it monoxide) in to the car which would hurt the dog.  What the friend did was attack the guy, so of course he was going to respond negatively and attack back, and a chance to educate the SUV guy was lost.  A real "superhero" can be polite and get his message across, and, in so doing, it's more likely the message will stick.
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More thoughts
by JimmyJames on September 20, 2006 - 11:17am

Hm, what can I say? Valid points from the other commenters.

It probably wasn't the most mature response on our part, but it was done in the heat of the moment to make a statement. We didn't anticipate that we'd still be around when the driver returned, it just kinda worked out that way.

Either way, I feel better that some action was taken rather than ignoring it alltogether.


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I gotta say...
by jjackson on September 20, 2006 - 11:21am

I think maybe it's taking it a bit far to actually touch other people's property, despite their nonchalance about touching our air quality.

On the other hand, if you'd put up a sign next to the vehicle, or marched around it's perimeter shouting slogans, or maybe even slipped an educational note under the windshield wiper, I'd be more supportive.

Maybe it's an arbitrary distinction. I guess everybody has to draw a line somewhere about how preachy and judgmental and aggressive they want to be, but I think we can all agree it's important to spread the word against the looming destruction of the planet.


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One more thing
by JimmyJames on September 20, 2006 - 11:29am

Great suggestion, Josh. I so wish we'd had our picket signs handy. How great if you had to cross a picket line just to enter your Escalade.

Can I mention one other great detail to the story? The SUV in question had a special "Georgia Wildlife Federation" license plate. I found that added bit of irony especially amusing.


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Picket Sign
by jjackson on September 20, 2006 - 11:34am
I carry one with me. It's shrinkable. Just add water and it grows to ten times its size.

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Wow
by Chris on September 20, 2006 - 11:50am
That's pretty harsh...it's not like you stuck one of those huge Anti-Suv stickers on his car that I have heard about.

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Good question
by Anonymous on September 20, 2006 - 12:03pm
I've run into this similar situations before, and no matter what I do, I end up feeling lousy after the encounter. Either I come off as being too pushy or ineffectual or I kick myself for not taking action. 
I've tried being nice, but that usually escalates into a situation where I seem to be preaching at the other person. If anyone has ever "corrected" a stranger and had success, please share your secret. 

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SOS
by Anonymous on September 21, 2006 - 1:03pm
It's ok, I write "Sod Off, Swampy" on Hybrid cars.

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Reality Check
by Anonymous on September 21, 2006 - 2:34pm
Reading Jimmy’s comment of 12:17pm and pursuing his logic of transparently feigned and sheepishly apologetic "it wasn't the most mature response on our part" rationale certainly might make one feel validated in calling the police and filing charges of defacement of private property - or simply rearranging his friend’s face.  After all, to steal Jimmy’s logic, it may not be the most mature response on our part but it would have been done in the heat of the moment to make a point.People can't win with hypercritics like Jimmy making their eager judgment calls.  If the driver leaves the car off and the windows cracked and he'd be all fussy because the pooch was left in the SUV and might suffocate.  Leave the bad 'ol SUV on and the driver is raping the planet.  Jimmy sounds like he feels bad about what he did and needs validation for his actions.  Tell you what - here’s some advice to assuage the conscience of people like Jimmy:  Get off your pietistic, preachy soapbox and get a life. By the way, unless Jimmy and his idiot friends walked to the restaurant from their candle-lit houses, wouldn’t one think they should at the very least remove the mote from their eyes before plucking the perceived beam from their fellow man?
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would be nice
by dreamymo on September 22, 2006 - 9:32am
if very vocal and opinionated posters would show themselves instead of anonymous commenting -- makes for a better debate in my opinion
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Judge not lest...
by Anonymous on September 21, 2006 - 3:33pm
I am curious as to how Jimmy knew that the couple could have left their dog home. Perhaps they were traveling and home was a great distance away. And I love Jimmy's fixation on the "SUV". Would this have been alright if it was a Prius? It seems with the cost of gas now days that the vehicle owner paid a price for the well being of the "canine american" in his family. Jimmy and his juvenile friends really had no business offering their opinions.  
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but
by dreamymo on September 22, 2006 - 9:39am
there is also the cost of the exhaust to people passing by outside to consider - dont forget about that - that is a very real, harmful cost.
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Down and Out
by Anonymous on September 21, 2006 - 3:49pm
Sometimes I get so disheartened by other people’s disregard for Mother Earth that it’s all I can do to keep from crying.  What usually cheers me up is going back home to my parent’s basement and watching old campaign footage from the 2004 election and just think of what could have been.  If Kerry were elected global warming would be a thing of the past and all the peoples of the world would unite in peace.  Sigh…back to the basement.
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tempest in teapot
by Anonymous on September 22, 2006 - 8:37am
....Global Warming would be a thing of the past???? So called Global Warming is not the results of human activity but rather the incredibly complex interactions of climate and celestial mechanics. The climate is moving from the little ice age 1100ad -1850 ad when the earth experienced climatic minimums to a warmer period. These are "NORMAL" cycles that are required by the earths ecological systems to maintain its balalance. Nothing Kerry or the SUV driver can change that. As far as the so called green house gases are considered, a single Mount ST. Helens release more green house gases than all automobiles world wide in the last 100 years. Your concern here is political advantage and power not some concern for Mother Nature. BTW if mankind was such a threat wouldn't you thing Mother Nature would do away with us like she did with the Dinosaurs?
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Mind your own business
by Anonymous on October 30, 2006 - 8:59am

You don't know all the details. The problem with environmentalists is they think everyone is an idiot except them. This guy was probably on a trip away from home and he did the right thing. If he would not of left the vehicle running with the AC on another self appointed know it all would have broken the window and given the dog to the aspca.

People need to assume that others are making appropriate decisions and mind their own business or they might get hurt. Think how much unnecessary exhaust the ambulance will make when I catch you touching my car.


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